>-----Original Message----- >From: pic microcontroller discussion list >[mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Russell McMahon >Sent: 23 August 2004 13:14 >To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Re: [EE:] Inverters for Electroluminescent wire ? > > >> >I discovered that a camera flash inverter will power >> >some length of EL-wire if you intercept it at the >> >HVAC part. While drawing more than an Amp from the >> >1.5V cell. That's NOT efficient enough :-) >> >> Yeah, these converters are optimised to charge up a capacitor in a >> short time :) > >Several people have commented similarly. >I know nothing about El light efficiency but, if the inverter >is 50% efficient end to end (which is quite a challenge at 1.5 >volts or less at that current level) then there is far less >than a watt available for light. If the EL wire is no more >efficient than many LEDs or incandescent bulbs, then say 3/4 >of a watt is quite believable. > >Consider a 3v LED at 20 mA = 60 mW. >750 mW/60 mW = about 12 LEDs. if these are modern high >efficiency LEDS rated at say 3000 - 6000 milli-Candella each >then you'd get 'lots'* of light. Use slightly older (or less >efficient cheaper) ones and you could well get less light than >you see from "a length" of EL wire. Note that LED light is >focussed and wire may put out a substantially higher light >energy level than is obvious. > >Given all the above, I suspect that an efficient supply may >need less power than the flash does BUT not as little as one >may have expected. Perhaps 100 mW - 500 mW range ? Details on the impedance of the wire itself seems to be a little thin on the ground. However, generaly the wire requires 100-130volts at around 4000Hz. Frequency affects brightness as well as colour in some types of EL material. The cheap inverters you can buy typicaly take 12volts at 25mA powering a couple of feet of EL wire (300mW good guess Russel!) but are definitely not noted for their efficiency. I have seen AA powered inverters that suggest the wire can be illuminated for 18 hours from two AA cells, but I suspect they are running the wire at very low currents. http://www.elwirecheap.com/faqs.html Regards Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. ======================================================================= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu