>But - i did not mention - the fluid is cooling water, so it is warm if >runs and the temperature even changes according to dissipation of the >laser gun to be cooled. It makes the termal approach a bit complicated I >think. The heat transport sensor works like this: ==================== <-- main pipe wall +----------------+ <-- sensor shield (eg thin PVC or PTFE tube) | S1 H S2 | +----------------+ ==================== H is a heater that runs all the time (resistor or NTC at ~80C). S1, S2 are thermistors and connected to a differential amp followed by a window comparator whith 3 outputs (above, equal, below). These outputs indicate flow forward/no flow/flow backward. A circuit verifies that the heater current is ok (not zero and not shorted). This is because loss of the heater will cause the output to misread. The heater current can be monitored by another window comparator to provide a 'signal good' readout. Output is independent of the liquid temperature but sensitivity can depend on flow speed. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.