In a message dated 8/18/2004 12:04:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mdredmond@CHARTER.NET writes: To add to what Randy said about the factory manuals: In my experience (Honda/Acura only), the manuals also specify the order in which parts can/should be removed, which can make a job a lot faster / easier. For example, you might be inclined to remove a part unneccesarily because it looks like it might prevent you from removing a this-or-that. The manual might tell you instead to rotate the this-or-that and pull it out from below the engine instead of out the top like you thought you might. If that makes sense . Not only does it make sense, most of the FACTORY manuals do this. One reason is that the dealers charge based upon a standard repair time chart and if they can cut down on the time it takes to make a given repair, then they are money ahead. The auto manufacturers know this and they make it a bit easier if they can. Also, it gives them some ammunition in only allowing a given amount of time/money to do a warranty repair at the dealers. If that makes sense as well Randy Abernathy 4626 Old Stilesboro Road NW Acworth, GA 30101-4066 Phone / Fax: 770-974-5295 Cell: 678-772-4113 E-mail: Cnc002@aol.com I furnish technical support, repair, and other related services for your industrial woodworking machinery. My background as Senior Service Engineer for the SCMI Group for nearly fifteen years with factory training, combines with my extensive background in electronics, mechanics, pneumatics, electrical and CNC machinery to offer you needed support for your machinery. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu