> However, IMHO, it's a different matter entirely when the above 'crimes' are > committed by posters to a mailing list, for all the readers to see, when > there is the potential to embarass the person asking the question in > 'public'. Isn't it Olin? Be kind. I've been genuinely amazed and appreciative of Olin's input lately. (Maybe I missed something :-) ?) I know this could come across as condescending, and that's honestly not my intention. I don't read all posts in detail, but I've read various Olin posts, expecting the old tongue lashing style and invective to surface after a while. So far (that I've seen) it's been all good advice delivered reasonably. Sure - some is more terse than from some people, but none of the old OTT harangues. I was thinking of saying something offlist to him, but felt that that may be taken poorly. This way I can embarrass him and myself in public at the same time. I can live with what I've seen of the new Olin :-). Hopefully he can live with me as well. Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu