> But again, this is not really a standalone desktop application like a word > processor. I'm just wondering with all the advantages people claim for Java > why there are not more of those applications out there. Not applets or > server code, but plain desktop applications. > > Gerhard I've spent the last year or so working on a *very* large Java application (educational software for Mechanical Engineering). I was thrown on the project (like most times) when things were going more slowly than anticipated. The project started 5 years ago. I had no hand in the initial design of either the objects or the user interface. Both of them, well, suck. On the other hand, the application runs very quickly. And this is using Java 1.2 (because that was what it started with, and they aren't going to "waste" the month or so to convert it to Java 1.4). While the application could use a total rewrite to clean up some rather skanky code, it works fast and provides the proper results. This is a *huge* application. It has seven modules that the students can create simulated experiments and see the results and match them up against similar data from real experiments. I call this "The Project That Eats People" because the lead programmer left it because he went insane, and grad students stay an average of 1 semester working on this app. Now, the *first* design for the program would have made it much more useful and it would be *done* a couple of years ago. -- D. Jay Newman ! DCX - it takes off and lands base down, jay@sprucegrove.com ! as God and Robert Heinlein intended. http://enerd.ws/robots/ ! -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body