>> were not allowed to market a printer that used HPL printing language > >You're right, except that I think you mean PCL ("Printer Control Language"). You are correct. I could not remember exactly what they called it, and remembered long after I had sent the mail, by which time I was too busy doing real work :)) As I remember it, there were other manufacturers jumped on the bandwagon and developed their own PCL printers, which left canon somewhat out in the cold because they had a contractual obligation not to do so. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.