Hello, MCLR was 8v regardless of a chip being there or not (I had a 10K resistor to Vcc on the breadboard). I tried a different PIC (both a 16F648 and a '628-4) in the Wisp, and now I'm getting 13V on MCLR, but am running into protocol problems. [sean@bob xwisp]$ ./xwisp.py go flash.hex XWisp 1.08, command line mode hardware: Wisp628 1.09 (fast) target: 16f628, revision 00 (ID=07C0) write Code 0000Traceback (most recent call last): File "./xwisp.py", line 3563, in ? XWisp_Main() File "./xwisp.py", line 3560, in XWisp_Main Wisp_Line().Interpret() File "./xwisp.py", line 3180, in Interpret self.Execute( Command ) File "./xwisp.py", line 3162, in Execute exec( 'self.CMD_' + Command.upper() + '()' ) File "", line 1, in ? File "./xwisp.py", line 2595, in CMD_GO Regions = self.Selection ) File "./xwisp.py", line 2250, in Write_Verify self.Write( Image, [ Region ], Warn = ( Region == Region_Fuses ) ) File "./xwisp.py", line 2163, in Write self.Put( Address, Image.Get( Address )) File "./xwisp.py", line 2048, in Put self.Bus.Send_Expect(( '%04X' % Data ) + 'w' ) File "./xwisp.py", line 915, in Send_Expect raise self.WBus_Protocol_Error, \ __main__.WBus_Protocol_Error: send='0185w' received='0185?' As I understand it, the ? means it didn't understand the 'w' command. AFAICT, I'm using the latest software on both the programmer and my computer. Thanks, Sean On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 22:57, Chetan Bhargava wrote: > Hi, > > What is the voltage at MCLR without the target chip connected? > > > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:13:11 -0500, Sean A. Walberg wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've put together a Wisp628 which I can connect to, but it's unable to > > read the ID off the target chip. When I measure MCLR, it's at 8v > > instead of the expected 13V. > > > > I've switched out all the parts in the charge pump, and even gone so far > > as building a new board, but I get the same thing. > > > > The voltages on C6/7/8's positive terminals are 8, 9.5, and 9V > > respectively while the pump is active. While I see about 3V on pin 9 of > > the PIC, I don't see anything on 6 or 5. Since I don't have a scope, I > > don't know if those last numbers are meaningful, though. -- Sean A. Walberg http://www.ertw.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics