Typically on our boards...ranging from 2 to 16 layers, we simply drop a via to the plane from the cap. IF you can place the cap where it can tie directly to the pins, its better of course. The amount of capacitance and number of layers also affect it, and at what speed the chip is running. There are points where the inductance of the trace will nullify the effects of the caps. In our case, the major ASIC's will have multiple types and numbers of caps, ranging from .001uF to 10uF. Xilinx has some good info (I have mine from a seminar) but it might be on thier website as well in analyzing the effects of caps, frequencies and layout issues. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu