Hi Wouter-- Why fool with bank transfer payments for anything, that's one of the most expensive methods of currency transactions there is?! I simply print out my own EMO and deposit it into my Thai bank savings account. That printout is a legal, internationally recognized banking instrument. Check the FAQ page. Now the first time my Thai banker saw this thing he had no idea what to do with it ... took almost 24 hours to resolve, so no big deal. They also offer an ATM debit card for international, I think ... don't know anything about it first-hand, though. For the pay button script, I think you have to go ahead and setup an account first, or at least sign the agreement. But there is no need to fund it. The script should be on the "My Account" page ... it's been a while since I needed that. It may also be covered in the FAQ, as well as the agreement. I guess they see no need for giving access to the button until there is an agreement, so I can't see that as a "which is worse" ;-) Regards/Roger, in Bangkok -----Original Message----- They ask $35 for transferring money to my bank account! (Paypal $1). But worse: there is no clear HowTo page about integrating their payment button into my shop software. Or if it exists it is well-hidden, which is worse. Wouter van Ooijen -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu