Thats why you also add a regular diode and compensate with a lesser value zener. I believe this was already mentioned. But in assembly, it is easy for a newbie to be confused about how a zener works differently than a regular diode. Yes there is no regulation, but is it required? It depends on the ciruit and I don't think that a blink-a-led needs regulation. PICs do not always need regulation, especially with such a wide operating voltage range of most PICs. I have found the INTRC to be very forgiving of supply variation and have not had a PIC lock up due to supply ripple. 9v is the de-facto standard power supply for newbies. What could be easier for a newbie to diagnose and replace? my $1/50 - Ben On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:02:32 -0500, David VanHorn wrote: > > > > >The power loss in the zener is the zener voltage times whatever the > >circuit draws. If the circuit draws nothing, the zener wastes nothing. > >The only thing more efficient would be an actual power converter (ie > >switching regulator). > > However, there is NO regulation at all. > Any voltage variation on the supply is passed direct to the micro. > > For that matter, if efficiency and low cost are the issue, why are we talking about a 9V battery? Four AA cells and a series diode would give better regulation than the 9V/Zener system, and reverse protection as well. An LDO would be better, but I could argue for this system in a product design, in some cases. > > Caps are needed in all cases, I figured those as a "gimme". > > > >> > >> As far as getting a newbie into trouble, I assume that the kit comes > >>... > > > >Just make sure newbies understand that a zener is supposed to be > >pointing the "wrong" way ;-) > > It's not the zener that I'm worried about, it's the main supply. > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics