Seem like everyone forgets that zener diodes actually subtract their voltage if placed in series. e.g. I would use a 1N4730A in series with the 9V. That would give you 9V - 3.9V = 5.1V ... perfect supply up to 1W! Although it does not regulate, you really don't need regulation in your example as I see it. I would also use a 1N400x series diode for reverse polarity protection - if so just use a 1N4728A to make up the additional voltage drop. MGB, - Mike > > > William Chops Westfield wrote: > >> On Jun 29, 2004, at 9:29 PM, Chetan Bhargava wrote: >> >>> Yes, I agree on that but eight year old kids don't want to know the >>> working of the circuit, they just want to finish the kit and see the >>> LEDs blinking :-) >> >> >> >> Oh, I agree on not knowing the workings, but having neat looking parts >> instead of just black blobs is an advantage, too. Maybe LEDs and a >> chip and some current limitting resistors are enough. After all, you >> can't get much cooler than LEDs... >> >> BillW >> >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: >> [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads >> -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads