> Currently > I have a pic start plus, which entails pulling the chip in and out of > circuit everytime I need to program the chip. IMHO ex-circuit programming sucks for development work on Flash chips. Switch to in-circuit programming, either by using the PS+ in-circuit (might work, might not work), or by getting another progger (my Wisp628 for instance :). ICD2 is much more expensive than a basic in-circuit progger, but it ads in-circuit debugging. I don't use a debugger very often, but when you would use a debugger for a PC program you will probably love in-circuit debugging. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics