Hi. I'm a artist/hobbyist who does a fair amount work with pics, and I'm wondering if people would be willing to offer an opinion on if getting the icd2 is worthwhile, and what aspects of it make it useful. Currently I have a pic start plus, which entails pulling the chip in and out of circuit everytime I need to program the chip. Honestly, I'm looking for an excuse to buy more stuff ;) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics