> >Next is that a hobbyist doesn't need to have each and every processor in >the family. One good overall pick is better than trying to find the perfect >fit. This is where I am at personally, I like one big butt-kicking chip, and then I'll port it down once I know that I have all the "and it needs X" handled. >Finally I'm a true bootloader fan. So self programmable is a must if possible. That limits you to the AVRs with SPM instruction. The 6 pin serial in-circuit programming interface, or the 8-wire Jtag interface make it very easy to develop, but they aren't true bootloaders. Of course a bootloader eats codespace too, so you have to consider that. In my 8 pin AVR barcode reader, I think I have seven instructions free, where a bootloader could live. :) Code contest anyone? You'd have to do a bit-banged uart as well... >So I ask the which one question in a different form. Which AVR parts match up >the most closely with the following PIC parts: > >12F675 (8 pin, flash, A/D) Tiny-15 or Tiny-13 which apparently has self-programming. (I've not used the T13) Tiny-13 http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/product_card.asp?part_id=3175 Tiny-15 http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/product_card.asp?part_id=2033 >16F88 (self programmable, most everything in a 18 pin package) Tiny-26 in a 20 pin, or Mega-8 in 23 pin package available, with 8 channels of 10 bit A/D.Also >16F877A (top of the line 40 pin 16F part. Wish there was a nanowatt version) M126/256 I think as well, no dip available. >18F4320 (top of the line 40 pin 18F part. Does have nanowatt) Mega-128 or Mega-256 Has low power Sleep, Snooze, Catnap (not really, atmel has a bunch of sleep modes, but their documentation is confusing and could be MUCH better) Also interesting FDIV register, that lets me divide the clock by N, where N is 1-127 Also low power Vittoz Xtal oscillator, like digital watch guys use, but no guidance on how to select the parts. Again, more docs/app notes needed. A nice sortable comparison page. http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/param_table.asp?family_id=607&subcat_id=&OrderBy=1229&Direction=ASC# -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads