> From: Robert B.[SMTP:piclist@NERDULATOR.NET] > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:48 PM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: [EE:] Analog signaling > I recently had an idea (probably ages old) for the transmission of data on a > continual basis using analog voltages, and would like to get some criticisms > on it before I get too deep into trying to make it work. The basic idea is > to use frequency-dependent filters to determine the amplitude of some analog > signal at a given frequency. Perhaps the best way to explain the idea is > with an example: > Example: Take a robot with 40 separate actuator "muscles". For now just > consider the actuation control and disregard the feedback mechanisms. To > establish real-time control of 40 actuators on a digital link would not be > impossible, but would perhaps restrict expandability, etc. So we assign > each "muscle" a control frequency based around a signal amplitude. Muscle 1 > gets 20khz, 10vpp centered on 0v. To move it from neutral, the amplitude of > the 20khz signal drops to say 5vpp or rises to 15vpp. The actuators are > tuned to listen on a specific frequency, which is then smoothed to a > relatively DC voltage. All 40 actuators are installed as said, at perhaps > 22khz, 24khz, ... and so on (no calcs yet, but assume there is enough > bandwidth), each with an independent filter to see what component of its > tuned control frequency is present. So now to control all 40 actuators at > once it would (only?) be necessary to sum 40 separate control signals into > one analog signal, and inject that to the backbone where each actuator will > single out its respective command. > The apparent advantage of this method (to me) would be the increased amount > of data transfer on a single wire, with the primary disadvantage being > somewhat imprecise control all around. > . . . . Something like this was proposed in the early days of the telegraph as a way to send multiple signals on a single wire. It was called the "harmonic telegraph" but I can't remember the inventor (Morse?, Bell?, someone in Europe?). In the very early days of radio controlled models (the vaccum tube days), something similar was used for multi-channel control. The audio output from the receiver was sent to an electromagnet mounted under a metal comb formed from spring steel. The teeth decreased in length across the comb, much like the "harp" found in music boxes. Each reed had a different resonant frequency; on the end of each was a contact which would touch a fixed contact below it. The vibratory signal from each contact was filtered and discriminated to make an on-off signal for each reed. John Power -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads