At 01:31 PM 6/25/2004 -0400, Martin Klingensmith wrote: >I have never actually used an Atmel device. I figure an 8 pin device >would be a good place to start, am I right? Do they have a serial >bootloader builtin or what would I do to program them? >Thanks. The 2343 is a great starter chip, 8 pin. Use the BA1FB (google, I posted the link earler) and you're there. I just recently did a Pseudonoise generator in one, and a repeater controller with courtesy tone, kerchunk filter, hang time, and CWID. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads