If you want to experiment with AVRs this is not the best one but it will be the cheapest one. You can build this small programmer and off you go... You can start with an attiny on a breadboard :-) The simplest programmer that I found is: http://home.pages.at/arnerossius/schalt/mikro/attiny11.gif Regards. On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:46:58 -0700, Alex Harford wrote: > > attiny11's are no RAM no EPROM devices, and require high voltage > serial programming. IMO not the best one to start with. > > You need a programmer like this: > http://www.equinox-tech.com/products/details.asp?ID=5 > > Or maybe: > http://users.cableaz.com/~cappels/dproj/910page/avr910.htm > http://www.serasidis.gr/circuits/avr_isp/avr_isp.htm > > > > On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:31:03 -0400, Martin Klingensmith > wrote: > > > > I have never actually used an Atmel device. I figure an 8 pin device > > would be a good place to start, am I right? Do they have a serial > > bootloader builtin or what would I do to program them? > > Thanks. > > > > I believe to actually start a group buy you should come up with a new > > subject line like: "[AVR] ATtiny11 group buy" > > > > You have a numbered list wherein people reply and add their name, email, > > and quantity - eg: > > 1. Martin Klingensmith martin@nnytech.net 50 > > .. > > When you reach 650 send emails and make sure people are still interested. > > -- > > -- > > Martin Klingensmith > > http://infoarchive.net/ > > http://nnytech.net/ > > > > > > > > Bhargava wrote: > > > I called my rep and figured out that the pricing is right (0.25) and > > > the minimum order quantity on PDIP packages is 650, packaged in > > > 50/tube. Lead time is 6 weeks. > > > > > > The minimum on SO package is 665 and lear time is longer than PDIP. > > > > > > Lets see if this attracts people to do a group buy. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 22:19:57 -0700, Bhargava wrote: > > > > > >>Let me find out with my rep... anyways if I can't buy those for 25 > > >>cents I'll go with 37 cents. It will be $6 difference if we buy 50 of > > >>them. > > >> > > >>Lets see how many people will join... > > >> > > >>Regards. > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads