It was my understanding that the AT90S1200 and AT90S2313 (which are the one= s I want to use) cannot be programmed using that straight parallel port con= nection... they needed something more. I could be wrong though. --- Begin Orginal Message --- From: "Russell McMahon" To: CC:=20 Date: 6/25/2004 9:16:48 AM > I figure somewhere on this list is somebody with an old programmer who ha= s since upgraded to a better one and wouldn't mind selling the other one? I'm= just sending this out to see if anyone has one on the cheap.. Thankssssss. Of course, you could use an AVR and build a programmer using 5 pieces of wire and a parallel port connector. Much cheaper than that would be very hard to achieve :-) RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads