> I figure somewhere on this list is somebody with an old programmer who has since upgraded to a better one and wouldn't mind selling the other one? I'm just sending this out to see if anyone has one on the cheap.. Thankssssss. Of course, you could use an AVR and build a programmer using 5 pieces of wire and a parallel port connector. Much cheaper than that would be very hard to achieve :-) RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads