I have played with PICs for a while, but my new project requires something = much faster (Tetris for NTSC TV - yes, I know a bunch of people did it with= PICs and 12/16/20Mhz crystals, but I want a lot of room to play with.. not= squeezing lines of code in whereever i can..) like an SX or AVR... I'd lik= e an SX cuz it's more PIC-like, but an AVR i can get free samples of, so go= figure, I guess whatever anyone has lying around. I figure somewhere on th= is list is somebody with an old programmer who has since upgraded to a bett= er one and wouldn't mind selling the other one? I'm just sending this out t= o see if anyone has one on the cheap.. Thankssssss. ~Rob -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads