On Jun 24, 2004, at 10:34 PM, Liam O'Hagan wrote:

> All AVR's can be programmed with 5 lines directly connected to the
> parallel port. No programmer needed as such.
>
Almost all AVRs.  The low end (used to be AT90S1200) needed a more
complicated programmer.  And there still seems to be a relative
scarcity of programming SOFTWARE compared to the PIC (perhaps because
the standard SW just works, perhaps other reasons.)  There's LOTS of
different versions of PIC programming SW....

It's very interesting that Atmel, having clearly targeted the PICs,
made so many mistakes (the lack of ISP in early chips, and the problems
of their first 8-pin efforts, for instance.)  But they're fixing them
pretty rapidly, too.  It's been ... interesting to watch.

BillW

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