The solder joints of lead-less are not as shiny as with 60/40 solder that I was using previously. Has anyone experienced the same thing? (Isn't the rule..."a shiny joint is a good joint"?) Maybe the lead less solder has a higher melting point and I'm not reaching it... I tested the continuity of the joints and they seem fine. James Tu james@2-bit-toys.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads