On Jun 23, 2004, at 11:48 AM, llile@SALTONUSA.COM wrote: > What does it take to actually do what we do? > Who is "we"? I've spent 15+ years doing "embedded systems" development, and for most of that time I haven't needed any tools other than those provided by my employer. For a while, that wasn't much more than 'access to a system that ran the appropriate C compiler, and a test system to run the resulting code on, and an appropriate connection between them.' That used to be a Heath-19 terminal accessing a 68k based unix workstation, and an ethernet. But then, I was primarily an embedded SOFTWARE engineer; someone else was designing the HW, and they had somewhat different requirements... No one mentioned internet access yet, or a source control utility. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu