Hello Robert Campbell, I'm not sure if this will help you, but when I was in college something similar (speeding ticked/clocked with radar) happened to me. I did the following: 1) Requested a supporting deposition. 2) My brother advised me to dress very nicely at the court appearance (white shirt, tie, dress pants, shoes, good shave) and be very polite. 3) The officer called me in the office and we chatted. I told him that the biggest problem was how this would cost me in car insurance over several years - the ticket was only a small fee compared to this. 4) He offered a bargain - plead guilty to a lesser 'moving violation' and that the speeding incident would not go on my insurance, or plead innocent and take my chances. I'm not a gambler, so I swallowed my pride. 5) The judge conferred with the officer. I paid a fee, but the speeding incident never went on my car insurance record or affected my SDIP points. I'm not sure if #2 did it, but I sure stood out in court compared to some of the others there. My brother taught me a valuable lesson. Hmm, now that I think about it, I think is the reason I designed a digital speedometer for my car several months later -- so a lot of good came out of that incident. Best regards and good luck Robert! I'm rooting for you! Let us know how you make out, ok? Ken Pergola -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body