Let's re-focus this to the actual topic heading: embedded work requirements: What does it take to actually do what we do? Here is my list: Hand tools (the usual subjects - soldering tools, pliers, no need to go down the whole list) Computer(s) (at least one real good one, and more in various states of repair, with or without cases, old laptops, old 486's, whatever. The more the merrier. "Good" is defined as at least last year's model, in any given year) Software: MPLAB BSPICE 4.1 Pro CCS C compiler or Hitech C Compiler Excel and Word of course, or reasonable analog such as Staroffice At least one desktop high level language (Choose one: Visual Basic, Visual C++, Labview, TestPoint, etc.) AutoCad (some people won't need a mechanical CAD program, but if you interface with mechanical engineers this is a painful necessity) or other mechanical CAD program that can handle DXF's PCB Layout (Eagle, Protel, Orcad, Tango, or similar) PIC in-circuit programmer (EPIC, Hacked Picstart Plus, or other similar) A big box of parts, hopefully well organized A bench, with anti-static measures in place, lots of electrical outlets, etc. So what would you add to your must-have, don't-code-without-it wish list? -- Lawrence Lile -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body