> I wouldn't write off the idea of a car. Although Europeans rarely travel > great distances by car, the roads are good through most of Europe, and > except in a few cities, driving really isn't that much of a chore. If you don't mind driving then there is a superb hire deal available throughout Europe. There are special "hire" offers by the major French car makers. These are an utter bargain. You effectively "buy" a brand new car tailored to your requirements (within limits) and sell it back at a prearranged price at the end of your trip. This is a tax swindle arranged by the French government to assist tourism etc and no doubt their car makers. The cost for other than short periods is LESS than comparable rentals. You get full insurance cover (NO excesses) and there are NO hidden costs. Car hire companies hide costs all over* . Proper insurance can vastly increase a hire bill and there are still excesses. You can pick up and return at many centres. Extra cost in some cases but still reasonable. If I know then what I know now I would have Chunnelled our car into the UK and returned it in London. We started with it in Paris. Peugeot Eurolease, Renault Eurodrive (or have I got those backwards) and I think Citroen as well. We were EXTREMELY happy with the deal that we got from Peugeot. We had a manual diesel Peugeot 306 Skywagon for 4 weeks in Europe mainland. Full glass roof allowed superb views in city and country. Passengers were much better off. A nice car - not super powerful being diesel but well up to the task of touring at full legal speeds with 4 people and too much luggage. 100 mph/160 kph on autobahns without apparent effort (we mainly sat at 130/140k on autobahns) and let the Mercs sail past at 220+. The 4 week hire above cost us less than 2 weeks in UK and than 2 weeks in US afair. I'll happily buy a 306 diesel skywagon once they get old an cheap here :-) Russell McMahon Britain - can't remember. USA was "(remember the) _ _ _ _ _ " car hire. I consider that they effectively ripped us off in two major ways. No doubt their opinion would vary. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.