I've outgrown the I/O on the F877 (yes I know i can expand it using I2C) so I am looking at the next size up. Looks as if the 18F6525 might be a good choice...comments? _________________________________________________________________ From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.