>Here is an example No link. Hmm - PIClist listserve must be stripping off embedded links these days. Anyway here is an example if anyone gives a hoot. http://www.missouri.edu/images2/art/jesse/jesse_night2.jpg -- Lawrence Lile llile@SALTONUSA.COM Sent by: pic microcontroller discussion list 06/21/2004 12:02 PM Please respond to pic microcontroller discussion list To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU cc: Subject: Re: [EE:] Typical Embedded work requirments (Was: Looking for work) In the State of Missouri it is illegal to title a business with the word "engineer" or "Engineering" unless that business is owned by a licensed professional engineer. That did not stop "Woodman Engineering", which sells garage doors, located about three blocks away from the Capitol building, from claiming that title. There is no requirement that the business actually do anything in particular, just has to have P.E. hanging around. P.E.'s are not just for dams and bridges anymore. I worked ten years designing electrical power and lighting for public buildings. Here is an example It is not illegal to call *yourself* an engineer, for instance a recycling engineer might be the guy who picks up your trash. -- Lawrence Lile, P.E. Lile Engineering Selling Surplus Nichrome Wire for the hobbyist and experimenter www.lile.biz Spehro Pefhany Sent by: pic microcontroller discussion list 06/20/2004 05:53 PM Please respond to pic microcontroller discussion list To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU cc: Subject: Re: [EE:] Typical Embedded work requirments (Was: Looking for work) At 04:02 PM 6/20/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > >> I have a Computer Science degree, and when I was doing an internship, > I used > >> the title "Software Engineer". My job consillor from school was a P.Eng, > >> and said that I could get in a lot of legal trouble for using that title. > > > >> Jason > > > >You should have told your counselor that he could get into trouble for > giving > >legal advice without being a lawyer. > >I think for civil engineering, (dams and bridges) that's true. In Ontario it's true in general. I have an engineering degree from an Ivy league class school but don't use the Engineer title because I have not bothered to go through the hassles and pay the regular fees for a P. Eng (more or less equivalent to US P.E.) I'm not sure how well they actually protect "Engineer", but "Professional Engineer" is definitely a no-no if you don't have the papers and dues paid up to date. Not long ago a guy in Florida was whining about being taken to court by the State association- he was selling real estate and was claiming he was an Engineer to increase his status- he lost, of course. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics