At 10:45 AM 6/21/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Actually, your cited reference says: >"Licensed professional engineers can be identified by the P.Eng. after >their names." >.... >"The Society is the advocacy and member services organization formed by >Ontario engineers to promote their professional and economic interests." >'nuff said The actual act: http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/Statutes/English/90p28_e.htm Penalties 40. (1) Every person who contravenes section 12 is guilty of an offence and= =20 on conviction is liable for the first offence to a fine of not more than=20 $25,000 and for each subsequent offence to a fine of not more than $50,000.= =20 R.S.O. 1990, c. P.28, s. 40 (1). Idem, use of term "professional engineer", etc. (2) Every person who is not a holder of a licence or a temporary licence=20 and who, (a) uses the title "professional engineer" or "ing=E9nieur" or an=20 abbreviation or variation thereof as an occupational or business= designation; (a.1) uses the title "engineer" or an abbreviation of that title in a=20 manner that will lead to the belief that the person may engage in the=20 practice of professional engineering; (b) uses a term, title or description that will lead to the belief that the= =20 person may engage in the practice of professional engineering; or (c) uses a seal that will lead to the belief that the person is a=20 professional engineer, is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable for the first offence=20 to a fine of not more than $10,000 and for each subsequent offence to a=20 fine of not more than $25,000. R.S.O. 1990, c. P.28, s. 40 (2); 2001, c. 9,= =20 Sched. B, s. 11 (59). Onus of proof (2.1) In a proceeding for an alleged contravention of clause (2) (a.1), the= =20 burden of proving that the use of the title or abbreviation will not lead=20 to the belief referred to is on the defendant, unless the defendant's use=20 of the title or abbreviation is authorized or required by an Act or=20 regulation. 2001, c. 9, Sched. B, s. 11 (60). Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the= reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics