Hello all, I need to design a board with a 18F458 in the 44-pin TQFP case that now should also accommodate a transition socket for the ICE 2000 (that's the XLT44PT). I don't have the time to wait until I actually have the transition socket in my hands, so I need to go by the drawings. I had a look at the drawings in http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/51194h.pdf pages 34/35. But I don't understand a crucial part of it. I need to know how much space around the pads I need to leave basically free for the transition socket leads. On page 35, it is not clear whether dimension D (550 mil) or dimension C (650 mil) is necessary. Does this socket have two rows of leads? On page 32, they say to leave 25 mil between the footprint and any vias. (I take it that doesn't apply to vias inside the pads, right?) But if dimension C is correct, that looks more like 50 mil were necessary. They also talk only about vias, but in the drawing it looks like the leads would lay flat on the board, going outwards from the pads. What about traces in that area around the footprint? It seems like there couldn't really be anything at all (no traces) in that square C or D. Has anybody used this socket and can help me out please with the actual space requirements? Thanks a lot, Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body