I've used a PICSTART+ at work for about a year now with pretty = satisfactory results. Except it seems kinda slow programming. =20 But now I'm looking to start doing some PIC projects at home and I'm = looking at my options: 1.) a parallel-port Tait style programmer. Seems pretty limited in the = number of different PICs they can program. 2.) Buy a picstart plus. Don't really want to spend $200. or 3.) Buy a WARP-13. Cheaper... hmmm. My question: Anyone have any comments about the Warp-13? Good or bad = experiences? Insider info... =20 Thanks to all for your reply(s). =20 Last point, I don't want to start any wars here about which programmer = is best and for what reasons, etc... Just looking for input on the Warp13. Robert Mash -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body