Thanks Peter. That did help a lot. From this document I have concluded = that I need to solder a negative wire on the lower edge on the same side = as the red wire. (Instead of on the other side in the middle which is = what I tried. It worked ok I guess.) One more question on this please if I may. I found that with the little = encased piezo speaker I have that if I feed it a pulse with a 33% duty = cycle I get a better sound than if I use 50%. =20 However I read somewhere that you should never use anything other than = 50% as anything else may damage the piezo. I find anything about that = in this excellent write up below. Has anyone else heard this about the = 50%? >=20 > A nice article about these kind of buzzers: > http://www.thedigitalshop.net/techdocs/piezo.pdf >=20 > Manufacturer links catalog with some driver examples and data > for their > piezo's though these have a second wire soldered on the brass > plate: > http://www.murata.com/catalog/p37e18.pdf > http://www.east-mingtao.com/p01_20.htm >=20 >=20 > Hope this helps >=20 > Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release Date: 6/4/2004 =20 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.