We don't discuss this sort of thing here. FIRST WARNING! --- James Newton: PICList webmaster/Admin mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 phone http://www.piclist.com/member/JMN-EFP-786 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Philip Stortz > Sent: 2004 Jun 15, Tue 20:46 > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT]: detecting emergency vehicles part 2 > > it's what some have rightly called "security theater", it > doesn't really make anyone safer, most people aren't fooled > by it, but the people making the stupid decisions and wasting > time get to act like they are doing something, too bad it > isn't something that might actually help, like working to > change the way we in the u.s. try and control, manipulate, > and threaten the rest of the world, and how we put puppets > into power and ignore their evil until we need a distraction > from how we promised the afghan people that we would help > them rebuild if they got the soviets out, i guess breaking > that promised cost us something, though it cost the people of > afghanistan a lot more. > > it might also have helped if we hadn't used the pakistani's > as middle men when we knew they were delivering the weapons > primarily to the most religiously extreme groups, oops.... > the hard fact is that the last several american presidents > are responsible for creating the conditions that let alkiada > (sp??) flourish, and for letting those conditions continue > until it became a problem for us, when we had promised so > much more. we promised to help the afghan people, we didn't, > a power vacuum developed and was filled with scum, we let the > scum ferment until it made a stink over here, then, then it > was a problem worth worrying about.... > > i'd suggest you flame off list, particularly if you don't > have anything intelligent to say, the truth is, there is > sadly a lack of things to say. i wish i were wrong. > > David VanHorn wrote: > -------- > > In the post-911 world, it's probably going to upset someone. > > > > I recently wanted to get the location of all our fire and > EMS stations, so I could put them on a map that we use to > coordinate our activities with them. Their addresses are not > in the phone book, removed after 9-11. Apparently, the > location of the buildings with the big red noisy trucks with > flashing lights, is a secret. > -------- > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics