it's what some have rightly called "security theater", it doesn't really make anyone safer, most people aren't fooled by it, but the people making the stupid decisions and wasting time get to act like they are doing something, too bad it isn't something that might actually help, like working to change the way we in the u.s. try and control, manipulate, and threaten the rest of the world, and how we put puppets into power and ignore their evil until we need a distraction from how we promised the afghan people that we would help them rebuild if they got the soviets out, i guess breaking that promised cost us something, though it cost the people of afghanistan a lot more. it might also have helped if we hadn't used the pakistani's as middle men when we knew they were delivering the weapons primarily to the most religiously extreme groups, oops.... the hard fact is that the last several american presidents are responsible for creating the conditions that let alkiada (sp??) flourish, and for letting those conditions continue until it became a problem for us, when we had promised so much more. we promised to help the afghan people, we didn't, a power vacuum developed and was filled with scum, we let the scum ferment until it made a stink over here, then, then it was a problem worth worrying about.... i'd suggest you flame off list, particularly if you don't have anything intelligent to say, the truth is, there is sadly a lack of things to say. i wish i were wrong. David VanHorn wrote: -------- > In the post-911 world, it's probably going to upset someone. > > I recently wanted to get the location of all our fire and EMS stations, so I could put them on a map that we use to coordinate our activities with them. Their addresses are not in the phone book, removed after 9-11. Apparently, the location of the buildings with the big red noisy trucks with flashing lights, is a secret. -------- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads