personally i think fixed speed cameras are a bit silly, everybody always slows to go through them. what i think is needed is massive wide spread booking for anything 5km over the limit. fine is $1 payable at a police station or somewhere equally inconvinent. you would have near instant compliance i would think and it penalises rich and poor alike. those who are willfully drastically speeding can have their licence revoked and if they keep it up their car sold with the money going somewhere usefull. people need to be aware that the cops are "everywhere" and that they are watching. But at the same time its obviously *not* revenue raising. -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Herbert Graf Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:44 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [OT]: detecting emergency vehicles > Totally serious. In fact I think my county (Ventura County) has > the highest > number of these 'red light cameras' installed. > Studies have shown that lengthening the time a light turns > yellow, plus the > time when one direction turns red before the other direction turns green > actually does more to save lives than these red light cameras, but where's > the money in that? I've never understood this "complaining" about red light cameras, photo radar, etc. People scream "it's a cash cow" or "it's just another tax". Well, to the first I respond: Of COURSE it's a cash cow, but if you do the right thing all the time you'll never pay it (why are people complaining about paying because THEY RAN A RED LIGHT. Why ARE they running red lights????). To the second I answer: if all taxes were those you could avoid by doing the right thing this world would be a far different place. I say bring on the photo radar, bring on the red light cameras. And yes, I drive, every single day. TTYL ---------------------------------- Herbert's PIC Stuff: http://repatch.dyndns.org:8383/pic_stuff/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads