That is my experience also; I have hundreds of 'F452 boards in the field, all with a floating RB5, all programmed fine with a standard Microchip ICD-2. Mind you, I'll be putting a 10k from RB5 to GND on the next rev of the pcb... > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom > Sent: 15 June 2004 18:39 > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [PIC] PIC18F452 LVP pin needs to be tied low? > > > At 12:01 PM 6/15/04 -0400, you wrote: > >> >Subject: Re: [PIC] PIC18F452 LVP pin needs to be tied low?> > >> > > >> >LVP on! As I said above I'm clear on the LVP pin problem when > >> >programming. So the new wrinkle is ICSP. Even when doing HVP > >> >only via ICSP one must make sure that the LVP pin doesn't float. > > This thread has interested me because I have a board that leaves RB.5 > floating (unconnected). And it has always worked correctly > with ICSP. So > have I just been lucky? > > Answer: no. I think! :) > > A quick experiment was performed. On my '252 board, I soldered a 2.2K > resistor from RB.5 to +5 volts. If a pin floating high is a > problem, then > this ought to find it. > > Then I erased the part via ICSP using the ICD2. Blank check > showed erased > part. Then I programmed it. > > Result: no problem. Board works fine. > > It is possible that different programmers might work > differently in this > regard, I don't know. But for the ICD2, there seems to be no > problem with > RB.5 floating high. > > Comments invited. > Tom > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads