yeah, we're all babies and need the government to play mommy.... or maybe automobiles should be banned completely, along with any powered vehicle and even bicycles. maybe we should be locked inside our houses and have food sent in by pneumatic tube... life's a bitch! freedom isn't free, part of the cost is always paid for by others, part of the cost is always paid in blood. frankly, i'd rather pay in blood for my rights and liberties than have to spill blood to get them back. maintaining freedom is a lot cheaper than getting it back later. grow up. the worlds a dangerous place. you pick your dice and throw them, adults should have the right to throw whatever set of dice they prefer until it's grossly irresponsible and hazardous to others, like drunk driving or building your own nuclear reactor in the back yard. please, i'm sick of the government trying to protect us from ourselves. it's not their job. the rightful role of government in a society that claims to be a democracy and wants to move in that direction is to protect the weak from the strong, the individual from corporations etc., not the other way around as it's becoming. maybe you shouldn't be allowed to have matches or solvents in your house, after all you could start a fire that could spread to someone else's house. yeah, it sucks when the public has to pay for accident victims care in hospitals, but it sucks a lot worse for the victim, get some perspective. taking care of people with aids or hepatitis is expensive as well, perhaps we should ban sex, we would certainly all be a lot safer. maybe cars shouldn't be allowed to go more than 5 mph and should have 2 foot soft squishy bumpers all around. everything you do potentially has some negative impact on others, particularly the idiots that think it's your fault when they worry or don't agree with your lifestyle. hey, i'm honestly very, very annoyed by lawnmowers and am very allergic to lawn clippings, it would be really nice if everyone had to mow the lawn on the same day, it would have a lot less impact on me, but you know i just don't think i have the right to force or expect that kind of compliance. if people mow randomly and there is usually someone mowing on any given day it impacts me, if people were banned from having lawns or had to mow them all the same day with sophisticated clipping/dust collectors it would impact on them. we all have to tolerate a little inconvenience if we want to be free ourselves which inevitably has negative impact on some. perhaps electric power generation should be banned. after all it creates a lot of pollution which shortens lives of millions, and there are those occasional railroad or other directly related activities that kill people occasionally. it's about balance, it's about having some respect for others. it's about realizing that different have different needs and susceptibilities to harm from others choices, you just have to tolerate the cost associated with freedom. besides, the legal system in this country is a crock and getting worse frankly. there are good cops, good judges, and perhaps even good prosecutors, but there are many, many more who are bad including some who are truly out of control. there are 3 major gangs in the U.S., the crips, the bloods, and the badges, frankly the badges do the most damage. at the same time i'd like to see a lot more police on the force, but they need to be better trained, more responsible for their actions, and they need to worry about real problems. things like domestic violence that is still often ignored that does real damage to individuals and society and leads to much death directly and indirectly. we don't need more laws, we need some of the current laws to be properly and aggressively enforced, and uniformly enforced independent of who the victim and perpetrator are. weighed against societies problems that law enforcement could actually have a positive impact on things like speeding hardly warrant automated and unsupervised systems. we must not put "justice" in the hands of machines and corporate america, unless we want massive corruption. corporations try to rip people off all the time, they occasional deliberately mis bill people's credit cards because many people won't notice and they can steal some extra $$. our satellite service has done this, tried to charge us for pay per view movies that were never ordered (the system isn't even connected to the phone line and we don't waste money that way). sure, if you complain they take off the fraudulent charges, but a lot of people don't notice or don't fight it and get ripped off. frankly i think this kind of credit card fraud is rather wide spread at a low level. at the very least it temporarily helps their cash flow and solvency, it can be a free signature loan until contested and credited. you really don't want to go down the road of taking away freedoms and regulating everything to death just to save some health care or other cost. there's a balance ideally, and we are headed away from freedom rather than towards it sadly. honor those who fought for your freedom by not giving those freedoms away or asking that they be taken from others. fascism usually starts slow, and then all of a sudden the police are randomly searching any house or person they want and holding people in secret locations without even allowing them access to a lawyer, i.e. what our wonderful government is doing right now. i believe in the constitution, bill of rights, and the declaration of independence. i'd like to see more law makers caring about this countries origins and a more enlightened public. more enlightened about the many historical and ongoing abuses of power that have and are happening here, now. go ahead, stick your head in the sand, just don't be surprised when someone comes up behind you and pulls your pants down... and i'd like to see more enforcement of many of the driving laws, but it has to be done by people, those people have to be responsible and accountable. there has to be proof and a witness, not some automated system that's easily corrupted or abused (just think about it, if a company becomes responsible for issuing and collecting on all speeding tickets the owners can speed at will, and others can be fined even when not guilty, just to make a profit). by legal definition corporations are fictitious persons, which is how those who make decisions avoid liability for their acts. a fictitious person, a corporation has no soul and there for can not help but be evil in the majority of cases. lets not privatize government, lets actually have government agencies doing their jobs rather than making others rich and avoiding responsibility for the outcome. Jake Anderson wrote: > > till you have a traffic accident > become brain damaged and a burden on society and those around you. > Or you get catapulted out of the car and die ruining the life of the other > person in the accident. > there are any number of reasons why seatbelts affect people other than those > wearing them. > my philosophy, you can do whatever you want so long as it dosent negativly > impact sombody else. > being a burden on society negativly impacts me though, keep that in mind > > the government seems to need to legislate in cases where common sense proves > yet again to be not as common as we would hope. --------- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads