> For an excellent summary of how attacking "speed" as the primary cause of > road accidents will backfire massively, take a look at > http://www.safespeed.org.uk OR take a look at Central Florida drivers... Last year my folks came over to see me (I am ex-pat) and the two pieces of advise I gave my Dad was... 1) Green _does not_ mean go, it means proceed with _EXTREME_ caution because around here.. 2) Red does not mean stop. The reason (I beleive) is that unless you are involved in an accident, you WILL NOT get anything worse than a speeding ticket. I mean, for crying out loud it's an offence (in most states) to drive without a seatbelt on (the one part of the car that's specific role is to save your butt in a wreck) yet, if you aren't wearing it, the cop can't stop you. So in the end everyone's insurance goes up, I pay $1100 for 6 months on two cars for bare minimum insurance. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads