Mike, I see your point here, but I think there is one think motorists don't think of. That is the formula for kinetic energy is 1/2Mass times Velocity squared. If you hit a person and you are going 30mph, you will do a certain amount of damage, lets say 30 squared is 900. If you are going 35mph the damage goes up 36 percent to 1225... I am not saying I have never broken the speed limit, but 5 mph over the limit is enough to easily kill someone, rather than just break their legs. Or if you put it another way, you have to get rid of 36% more energy to stop the vehicle from hitting someone. Brian. -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Michael Rigby-Jones Sent: 15 June 2004 13:01 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [OT]: detecting emergency vehicles Unfortunately the UK's previous excellent road safety record is no longer so. Our road death rate was falling every year from sometime in the 1950's to around 1993, whereupon it leveled out, and now remains at around 2400 pa. A quick look at the goverments road saftey policy reveals that at exactly this time, they started their unjustified crusade against motorists, and speed camera use started to become widespread. Along with the increase in the number of cameras has come a significant decrease in the numbers of traffic police. In their naivety, the government appear to think that a speed camera can replace a police officer. This policy, guided by narrow minds and utter stupidity is actually costing us lives. Testement to this is the now record number of drunk drivers, uninsured/unlicensed drivers and unroadworthy cars on UK roads. A secondary effect is the disgust and general alienation of the police by the majority of UK motoring public. Penalty points on the licence, and speeding fines are now virtualy an accepted way of life. Even insurance companies do not load premiums for minor speeding offences. For an excellent summary of how attacking "speed" as the primary cause of road accidents will backfire massively, take a look at http://www.safespeed.org.uk Regards Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. ======================================================================= Any questions about Bookham's E-Mail service should be directed to postmaster@bookham.com. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads