Totally serious.  In fact I think my county (Ventura County) has the highest
number of these 'red light cameras' installed.
Studies have shown that lengthening the time a light turns yellow, plus the
time when one direction turns red before the other direction turns green
actually does more to save lives than these red light cameras, but where's
the money in that?
Dave

> Are you serious about the cameras on redlights comment?  I always thought
> that was just a joke...  If you are, it sounds to me like Californians are
> loooooooong past due for a tax-break.

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