Lawrence, On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:11:40 -0500, llile@SALTONUSA.COM wrote: > The only time I use a solderless board anymore is when I am genuinely goofing around with something and really have little idea how it will work. Ah! That explains it - that's *always* what I'm doing... I have a lot of solderless breadboards :-) I'm just a bit disappointed that they are all on a 0.1" square configuration, so things that have 45 degree-arranged pins (RJ11 sockets, D-series connectors and so on) can't be used. Anyone know of a 45-degree-to-rightangled convertor mini-PCB (along the lines of the SOIC-to-DIP boards that Wouter and others sell) that I could use to plug this sort of thing into a breadboard? Incidentally, preset pot's used to be a problem too, but Randy Jones ("Glitchbuster") now does them that are 0.1" spaced and they work a treat for plugging in. Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu