> ~$5 for an FTDI serial or parallel USB chip and a > handful of cheap > passive components will get you a USB interface for > your PIC... what's > so painful about that? Then you can do whatever you > want on both the > PIC and PC side of things. Well, as far as I can tell, that FTDI chip is only available for surface mount. Then on top of that, to order it typically requires a minimum order, and then shipping costs and duty (I'm in Canada). Also, from what I was reading, that FTDI chip requires some type of virtual comm port driver to be installed whereas a usb mouse already has a driver built-in to Windows. > You can also get pre-made > USB modules that > plug into a DIP socket, syou can even transfer them > from PIC board to > PIC board or use in a solderless protoboard This sounds interesting, who makes these? They probably cost a decent penny, no? > solderless protoboard (Ugh... > these things should > be outlawed for most uses, but that's another > subject). Bah, they're fine if you're a broke-ass non-engineer type. If I was doing anything for pay, I would agree, since I'd probably make proper boards. Thanks for the input though, I would love to find out more about these USB DIP modules if you get a chance. Peace ===== MJ Brush LeftClick.ca Internet Media Services mbrush@[NOSPAM]leftclick.ca ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.