My 10 year old microwave had become weak and grilling was bad, just bought a new one, better features at half the old microwave price. Welder seems to be a good project to try for the could-not-throw-away microwave. I got one from a brief google search. http://www.dansworkshop.com/Homebuilt%20arc%20welder.shtml -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu