I've found some fantastic software for schematic/board layout/autorouting which is in Beta development at http://www.otl.co.uk and have been having a play with it over the past few days. Its got to be one of the easiest PCB programs I've used for a long time - its still got a few bugs but when I reported them to OTL, I received a near immediate response. One of the suggestions I had was the inclusion of some Microchip libraries. I received an email from Simon at OTL this afternoon saying he'd had a look at the Microchip website but the sheer quantities of the various types of processors leaves him a little unsure as to where to start. Would anyone care to suggest which Pics and packages they'd like to see in the final version of this software ? I'm sure any suggestions would be gratefully received by OTL. Cheers Dom -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.