sorry, i just joined and missed the first part of this, do you have a link for this? by the way, the u.s. patent system is different than most countries, though attempts are being made to harmonize the patent systems. one annoying difference, the u.s. is the only place where a company rather than an individual can apply for and be granted a patent. additionally, it's one of the few companies where the police do not help with patent enforcement and it's entirely up to the patent owner to fund patent enforcement and pursue all infringers. imho, all patents should be issued in the name of real people, even if owned by their employer (which is also widely abused, the local power company wants to own completely any patent any employee ever comes up with, even years after leaving that company, and no matter how unrelated to their business, and even for humble meter readers! needless to say i didn't finish that application!) also, sadly, the patent office, imho, is really, really blowing things lately. issuing patents for all kinds of things that should not be patentable (because they are obvious or are in fact already well known solutions). they have had to revoke a number of patents in more ridiculous cases. of course the small company or individual rarely has the legal resources to challenge what is obviously a bad patent, particularly if large corporations are involved. even worse, many government and other researchers are applying and being granted patents for simple things simply to demonstrate that they are producing work. in the case of government researchers, working at government agencies i frankly have a real problem with them receiving patents and charging high fees for access to publicly funded research meant to benefit the public in the first place. for instance NIST has some rather ridiculously high fees for access to some of their data, fees that essentially block access by individuals and small companies unless they are very sure said information will help them. i do see it as somewhat reasonable that private researchers at private companies can get patents on work partially funded by government grants, though i would argue that the licensing of these patents does perhaps need to be regulated, at least as far as letting competitors license these patents for a "reasonable" fee rather than one company having a monopoly on work that was partially funded by tax dollars. my tax dollars should be used to help all, not to help particular companies establish monopolies. otherwise said companies should provide all of the funding. "John N. Power" wrote: > > > From: Peter L. Peres[SMTP:plp@ACTCOM.CO.IL] > > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 3:39 AM > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: Re: [EE]: Microsoft granted patent on button click timimg > > >>I wonder why the US has gone so far from the original > >>principles of patents? > > > Imho because people work less with their hands and more with their heads, > > and they are trying to capitalize on it by extending an old idea. It does > > not work so far. > > > Peter --------- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.