Well it was confirmed that the new machine is being delivered tomorrow and they are expecting to pick up the old one. I've therefore stripped out anything that could be of use and the shell is now in the front garden :-( I did however take a couple of pictures of the controller I built before its been retired to the spare parts cupboard. Pictures can be found here : http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=1362028#post1362028 Sorry about the chat on there - its actually a performance car forum but people on there tend to buy stuff I've built. Cheers Dom -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body