> A friend of mine just installed an American Standard toilet with "turbo > flush" (or whatever it is they call it) as seen in their television > advertising lately ... Our's didn't come from a TV ad, but it *does* do the job that even the older ones couldn't do. Of course, it's rather loud, but it works with less water. -- D. Jay Newman ! jay@sprucegrove.com ! Xander: Giles, don't make cave-slayer unhappy. http://enerd.ws/robots/ ! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.