> a) do I have 5 volts on the pins where it should be? > b) is my crystal oscillating? > c) is my port pin toggling? > d) is there any data coming in on the serial port line? If you're really only interested in only that level of data, a simple, cheap logic probe may suffice. Mine has high/low pitch beeping for logic 1/0, so I don't even have to look at it while poking it around the pins on a board, and you can get to where you know what some typical waveforms (like serial I/O or ICSP data) "sound like" as they pulse back and forth. -- Steve Willoughby | "It is our choices... that show what we truly | are, far more than our abilities." | --Albus Dumbledore, in Harry Potter and the | Chamber of Secrets, by J. K. Rowling -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.