> I'm a firm believer that switches should only control lights, not fans. That is very true. Most light switches will not take the inductive kickback from even a small (30W) fan for too long. I have seen a scheme where a small load is powered from the live wire in two ways: When the load is off, a small leakage through the load is used to obtain the power. When the load is on, the voltage drop on the switch is used. The scheme I saw that used this, powered a single blinking led. This could be expanded easily using a dc/dc upconverter from 1-1.5V to 3 or 5V. The voltage drop in operation was obtained from two bridge rectifiers 'misused' as four (eight ?) antiparallel diodes. With the switch off, the power came from a capacitive voltage reducer (Xc etc). Neat ? Ideally the switcher would work from 0.5V, to use a single diode drop. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body