I am also having troubles accessing the site. I have verizon DSL and all of a sudden none of the computers in my house can get on the site(didnt have this prob a few weeks ago). I can access it fine though if I sign on to AOL(through tcp/ip not dial up) and use aol's browser....both confusing and a pain in the @$$.... Michael Hillpot -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.